Looking to speak to people who have lost money on Forex scams for Vice UK
Hey, I'm a journalist at Vice, currently writing about influencer forex scams. I tried forex myself and wrote about encountering some scammers earlier this year - https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgexk3/forex-trading-help-tips-make-money-online. I'm now writing another piece specifically about influencers and reality celebrities offering signals/ trading groups etc on Instagram and I'm looking to speak to people who have been caught out by them. I'm hoping that sharing these stories can stop other people losing out and also put some pressure to stop unscrupulous behaviour by certain celebrities who should know better! Get in touch if you're interested in chatting - either reply here or feel free to message me if you'd prefer. Cheers! Hayden
UK Watchdog Reports $34 Million Lost in Crypto and Forex Scams Last Year
The primary financial regulator of the United Kingdom, the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA), reports that crypto investors in the country lost over $34 million due to cryptocurrency and forex scams from 2018–2019 the Financial Times reports on May 20. According to the data, which the FCA gathered from the U.K. national fraud and cybercrime reporting center, Action Fraud, individual loss due to scams decreased from $76,000 to $18,500 while total losses fell by $14 million. However, the number of reports more than tripled to reach 1,834, with 81 percent of such reports being crypto scam claims. Per the report, the FCA is considering a ban on “high-risk derivative products linked to cryptoassets.” For now, FCA executive director Mark Steward cautions: “Scammers can be very convincing so always do your own research into any firm you are considering investing with, to make sure that they are the real deal.” The FCA reportedly stated that scammers use social media to find potential investors. The regulator also noted that scams will often use pictures of celebrities with fake endorsements alongside imagery of luxury goods like cars and watches. Last year, initial coin offering (ICOs) advisory firm Statis Group released a study, which found that over 80 percent of ICOs in 2017 were scams. The associated losses for that year totaled $1.34 billion. As recently reported by Cointelegraph, new evidence has surfaced suggesting that purported bitcoin (BTC) exchange Goxtrade is a scam. Goxtrade reportedly used the real names and pictures of unaffiliated parties such as blockchain figure Amber Baldet to fill their website staff page and is absent from the U.K.’s registry of companies and businesses. Trade Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies with up to 100x leverage. Fast execution, low fees,available only on Bitseven https://preview.redd.it/sa2yjuljygz21.png?width=633&format=png&auto=webp&s=f9f29997a4b161531ae6d4a80c8958511f6a8f08
In these difficult times, please be aware of trading/investment scams
In these difficult times, when many people may be losing their jobs, I wanted to draw attention to share trading/investment scams. They’re relatively easy to recognise if you’re familiar with their ways of working: they usually approach people out of the blue, offer fast or big returns, promote a lifestyle many of us wish we could have, don’t want to discuss the risks and they’re not regulated by the FCA. Now I’m not a finance expert and don’t know the ins and outs of the regulatory work but I know that I should only deal with companies with a good public presence that are also FCA approved. If they start dodging questions, it’s a clear sign that they may be up to no good. I was approached by someone on Reddit today offering investment account management promising returns in as little as 7 days. Their profile is full of photos of someone living a lavish lifestyle and sometimes looking at a few charts. They were super quick to respond to any question but suddenly went quiet when I asked about the FCA. Again, I’m not an expert and some offers may be genuine. But now that many of us are struggling, it’s important to be extra careful and avoid potential scams as much as possible. The FCA has some good guidance on their website about these scams and how to avoid them. Stay safe, all.
The FCA bans on Bitcoin and other crypto assets are too harsh and hypocritical.
I as a British citizen and Im concerned about the recent Bitcoin ban. Reasons why:
You can be scammed out on Forex trading due to high leverage, online con artists and platforms shutting down forex trading altogether.
Plus 500 stopped trading the USA/CNH trading pair after the trade war was declared by trump.
Gambling has no regulations, I can spend as much money as possible on any game or sport and no questions are asked.
A uni student committed suicide last year after being groomed by gambling companies to spend over 20k in one week. No action was taken.
Platforms such as plus 500 offer options that have high spreads, hidden leverage, doesn't track the asset price and can be shut down and can be manupliated by the platform at will.
Plus 500 regulary increase the spread of options such as gold, oil, stocks during trading days and also shut down trading on a daily basis. Plus 500 shut down Natural gas options for 12hrs due to a 6% slump.
The UK is one of the biggest money laundering and predatory finance trading countries in the world.
The requirements to be a pro trader are insane: ( you need 2/3)
you need experience working in finance.
500k trading captail
Or make 12+ large trades in the past year.
Ironically using Binance and Coinbase for trading has been safer for me compared to uk stock/forex trading apps. In summary the reasons above HAPPEN ALL THE TIME AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE TO STOP THESE THINGS FROM HAPPENING. But Bitcoin and cryptocurrencey as a whole are seen as evil even though they have been profitable for the majority of their existence.
Journalist looking for information/leads on forex scams in the era of COVID-19
Hello Forex! My name is Ed Prideaux and I’m a UK-based journalist (VICE, BBC, FT, Guardian, Independent, Spectator, etc.). I’m interested in writing an article about how scammers are using the internet - and especially social media platforms like IG - to recruit new bait amid the financial stresses of COVID-19. One area I want to explore is Forex trading, which has attracted its fair share of fake gurus, 'mentors' and other scammers for a while. I’m looking for tips, potential leads, and things to read and check out. Please share anything and everything you think I should see, and especially if it’s connected to COVID-19 and the economic slowdown. Ideally, I’d also like to source some testimonies from people in the sub-reddit who were recently scammed. As above, I’m especially interested in hearing from those who were targeted and fell for a scam because of financial hardship triggered by the global recession. For testimonies, everything would be anonymous on request. If you want to help, feel free to PM me or leave a comment, and I’ll PM you. Thanks - Ed
Is this guy trying to scam me? Should I report him?
This morning, I had a guy (UK) reach out to me (USA) on Instagram. No mutuals, no reason us to be connected. After a few short messages, here's what he sent to me: "I'm (name) and I work with a financial growth institute on Forex, I'm a professional Forex trader with 11 years experience where I'm able to achieve success where others find it difficult. ForexTrade is the fastest growing and easiest growing online trade very beneficial to everyone interested. It is trade made on Gold, Bitcoin, currencies, as well as cryptocurrencies (digital currency) and the stocks when there would be a rose or fall and it would be safe to buy or sell. You don't need any skill to do it because we are professional traders and account managers and study the stocks market and know when it's safe to sell or buy when favourable to your gain. Forex trading is one of the highest paid investment treasury in the world, it is a lucrative platform worth trillions of dollars and you can earn tremendous profits with good experience in Forex trading. Here you can make twice your investment, no experience needed. Let's say I start trading on Forex with $5000, I'm sure to get a profit of $15000 at the end of every week or 21 days at most." Me: "Cool, what's your role?" Him: "I offer trading account management services with tutoring where you'll be able to watch your forex live trading account progression with each day I manage and trade your account. I charge a 20% commission of the total profits I make trading on your Forex live account. I googled "Forex scam" and couldn't find too much online. I'm really suspicious for a few reasons:
A lot of what he says seems like stringing along buzzwords in an effort to wow me. "Bitcoin... as well as cryptocurrencies" But bitcoin IS a cyrptocurrency...? Also what even is a financial growth institute?
Why can't I find him on LinkedIn? That seems like an obvious place to be if you're trying to expand your network (and a whole lot more reasonable than Instagram)
If we "don't need any skill to do it", why do I need to pay him 20% commission? Surely I could find someone else who will do it for less or do it myself?
His Instagram says he has 8000 followers, following 7000 people. But his first post is from *3 days ago* and none of them has more than 80 likes. To me, it looks like he's bought most of his followers. Also just looking through a few of their profiles, none of them appear to be British.
He seems very certain of his ability to succeed. That certainty seems misplaced for a few reasons.
He has no reason to reach out to me. When I accepted his message request, I thought he had found me on Tinder or something. But no, he just saw that I'm military and I'd liked some pictures on a military page (which FUCK THIS GUY WITH A SPATULA if he's trying to scam fellow service members out of money).
So anyway. If this is a scam (which I am leaning toward yes), my follow-up would be:
Can I report him to Instagram? Will anything be done?
What else could I do? If he's actively targeting the military, I want to bring this guy down.
Journalist looking for information/leads on scams in the era of COVID-19
Hello Scams! My name is Ed Prideaux and I’m a UK-based journalist (VICE, BBC, FT, Guardian, Independent, Spectator, etc.). I’m interested in writing an article about how scammers are using the internet - and especially social media platforms like IG - to recruit new bait amid the financial stresses of COVID-19. I'm interested in anything and everything scammy you can share, and definitely if it’s connected to COVID-19 and the economic slowdown. This includes outright fraudsters, forex dudes, day traders, fake gurus, ‘mentors’, e-commerce fakers, etc. I’m looking for tips, potential leads, and things to read and check out. Ideally, I’d also like to source some testimonies from people in the sub-reddit who were recently scammed. As above, I’m especially interested in hearing from those who were targeted and fell for a scam because of financial hardship triggered by the global recession. For testimonies, everything would be anonymous on request. If you want to help, feel free to PM me or leave a comment, and I’ll PM you. Thanks - Ed
Someone posted on here a few days ago asking about forex and forex trading in Kenya, I have gone through the responses and clearly, most people don’t have an idea. It is 3am in the morning and am in a good mood so let me make this post. This will be a comprehensive and lengthy post so grab a pen and paper and sit down. We’ll be here a while. FIRST OF ALL, who am I..? I am a forex trader, in Nairobi, Kenya..i have been actively involved in forex since I found out about it in Feb 2016 when I somehow ended up in a wealth creation seminar (lol) in pride inn Westlands, the one close to Mpaka Rd. Luckily for me, it was not one of those AIM global meetings or I’d be on Facebook selling God knows what those guys sell. I did not take it seriously till August of the same year and I have been active ever since. I don’t teach, mentor or sell a course or signals, I trade my own money. I am also posting from a throwaway account because I don’t want KRA on my ass. What the fuck is forex and forex trading. In simple plain English, forex is like the stock market but for currencies. Stock Market = Shares, forex = currencies. If you want more in-depth explanation, google is your friend. These currencies are pegged on specific countries, united states- dollar, UK- pound, euro zone- euro, Switzerland- Swiss franc, Kenya- Kenya shilling.. you get the point. Now, there are specific events and happenings between these economies that affect the movement and values of the currencies, driving their value (purchasing power up and down). Forex trading exploits these movements to make money. When the value is going up, we buy and vice versa (down –sell) Is forex trading illegal in Kenya? Is it a scam? Illegal, no. scam, no. All the banks in the world do it (KCB made about 4 billion from trading forex in 2019) Have there been scams involving forex in Kenya? Yes. Here is one that happened recently. This one is the most infamous one yet. Best believe that this is not the end of these type of scams because the stupidity, greed and gullibility of human beings is unfathomable. However, by the end of this post, I hope you won’t fall for such silliness. What next how do I make it work..? Am glad you asked. Generally, there are two ways to go about it. One, you teach yourself. This is the equivalent of stealing our dad’s car and hoping that the pedal you hit is the brake and not the accelerator. It is the route I took, it is the most rewarding and a huge ego boost when you finally make it on your own. Typically, this involves scouring the internet for hours upon hours going down rabbit holes, thinking you have made it telling all your friends how you will be a millionaire then losing all your money. Some people do not have the stomach for that. The second route is more practical, structured and smarter. First Learn the basics. There is a free online forex course at www.babypips.com/learn/forex this is merely an introductory course. Basically it is learning the parts of a car before they let you inside the car. Second, start building your strategy. By the time you are done with the babypips, you will have a feel of what the forex market is, what interests you, etc. Tip..Babypips has a lot of garbage. It is good for introductory purposes but not good for much else, pick whatever stick to you or jumps at you the first time. Nonsense like indicators should be ignored. The next step is now the most important. Developing the skill and building your strategy. As a beginner, you want to exhaust your naivety before jumping into the more advanced stuff. Eg can you identify a trend, what is a pair, what is position sizing, what is metatrader 4 and how to operate it, what news is good for a currency, when can I trade, what are the different trading sessions, what is technical analysis, what is market sentiment, what are bullish conditions what is emotion management, how does my psychology affect my trading (more on this later) an I a swing, scalper or day trader etc Mentors and forex courses.. you have probably seen people advertising how they can teach and mentor you on how to trade forex and charging so much money for it. Somehow it seems that these people are focused on the teaching than the trading. Weird, right..? Truth is trading is hard, teaching not quite. A common saying in the industry is “Those who can’t trade, teach” you want to avoid all these gurus on Facebook and Instagram, some are legit but most are not. Sifting the wheat from the chaff is hard but I did that for you. The info is available online on YouTube, telegram channels etc. am not saying not to spend money on a course, if you find a mentor whose style resonates with you and the course is reasonably priced, please, go ahead and buy..it will cut your learning curve in half. People are different. What worked for me might not work for you. Here are some nice YouTube channels to watch. These guys are legit..
After a short period of time, you will be able to sniff out bs teachers with relative ease. You will also discover some of your own and expand the list. Two tips, start with the oldest videos first and whichever of these resonates with you, stick with till the wheels fall off. How long will it take until things start making sense Give yourself time to grow and learn. This is all new to you and you are allowed to make mistakes, to fail and discover yourself. Realistically, depending on the effort you put in, you will not start seeing results until after 6 months. Could take longeshorter so there is no guarantee. Social media, Mentality, Psychology and Books Online, forex trading might not have the best reputation online because it takes hard work and scammers and gurus give it a bad name. However, try to not get sucked into the Instagram trader lifestyle as it is nowhere close to what the reality is. You will not make millions tomorrow or the day after, you might never even make it in this market. But that is the reality of life. Nothing is promised, nothing is guaranteed. Your mentality, beliefs and ego will be challenged in this market. You will learn things that will make you blood boil, you will ask yourself daily, how is this possible, why don’t they teach this in school..bla bla bla..it will be hard but growth is painful, if it wasn’t we’d all be billionaires. Take a break, take a walk, drink a glass of whatever you like or roll one..detox. Chill with your girl (or man) Gradually you will develop mental toughness that will set you up for life. Personally, I sorta ditched religion and picked up stoicism. Whatever works for you. Psychology, this is unfortunately one of the most neglected aspects of your personal development in this journey. Do you believe in yourself? Can you stand by your convictions when everyone is against you? Can you get up every day uncertain of the future? There will be moments where you will question yourself, am I even doing the right thing? the right way? It is normal and essential for your growth. People who played competitive sports have a natural advantage here. Remember the game is first won in your head then on the pitch. Books: ironically, books that helped me the most were the mindset books, Think and grow rich, trading for a living, 4 hour work week, the monk who sold his Ferrari..just google mindset and psychology books, most trading books are garbage. Watch and listen to people who have made it in the investing business. Ray Dalio, warren, Bill Ackman and Carl Icahn. This is turning out to be lengthier than I anticipated so I’ll try to be brief for the remaining parts. Brokers You will need to open up an account with a broker. Get a broker who is regulated. Australian ones (IC Market and Pepperstone) are both legit, reliable and regulated. Do your research. I’d avoid local ones because I’ve heard stories of wide spreads and liquidity problems. International brokers have never failed me. There are plenty brokers, there is no one size fits all recommendation. If it ain’t broke..don’t fix it. Money transfer. All brokers accept wire transfers, you might need to call your bank to authorize that, avoid Equity bank. Stanchart and Stanbic are alright. Large withdrawals $10k+ you will have to call them prior. Get Skrill and Neteller if you don’t like banks like me, set up a Bitcoin wallet for faster withdrawals, (Payoneer and Paypal are accepted by some brokers, just check with them.) How much money can I make..? I hate this question because people have perceived ceilings of income in their minds, eg 1 million ksh is too much to make per month or 10,000ksh is too little. Instead, work backwards. What % return did I make this month/ on this trade. Safaricom made 19.5% last year, if you make 20% you have outperformed them. If you reach of consistency where you can make x% per month on whatever money you have, then there are no limits to how much you can make. How much money do I need to start with..? Zero. You have all the resources above, go forth. There are brokers who provide free bonuses and withdraw-able profits. However, to make a fulltime income you will need some serious cash. Generally, 50,000 kes. You can start lower or higher but if you need say 20k to live comfortably and that is a 10% return per month, then you can do the math on how big your account should be. Of course things like compound interest come into play but that is dependent on your skill level. I have seen people do spectacular things with very little funds. Taxes..? Talk to a lawyer or an accountant. I am neither. Family? Friends? Unfortunately, people will not understand why you spend hundreds of hours watching strangers on the internet so it is best to keep it from them. Eventually you will make it work and they will come to your corner talking about how they always knew you’d make it. The journey will be lonely, make some trading buddies along the way. You’d be surprised at how easy it is when people are united by their circumstances (and stupidity) I have guys who are my bros from South Africa and Lebanon who I have never met but we came up together and are now homies. Join forums, ask questions and grow. That is the only way to learn. Ideally, a group of 5-10 friends committed to learning and growth is the best model. Pushing each other to grow and discovering together. Forex is real and you can do amazing things with it. It is not a get rich quick scheme. If you want a quick guaranteed income, get a job. And now it is 5am, fuck. This is oversimplified and leaves out many many aspects. Happy to answer any questions.
UK resident got scammed to send money to an Australian bank account. What I did and what to do next?
Hello, I live in England and this is a long post about how I got scammed, presenting my story and asking for advice. Much appreciated to all who go through all of it and send their ideas. Also posted in AusLegal here: https://www.reddit.com/AusLegal/comments/iujgpq/uk_resident_got_scammed_to_send_money_to_an/ So I met a person online, and after chatting a bit she started showing me her gold trading profits. At first I didn't care that much, but she kept showing me profits and I said I wish I knew how to trade like that. She puts me in contact with this person, who is supposed to teach me how to trade. This teacher tells me that I will start with simulated gold trading, and after some time I would move on to real trading. After a couple of days of trading she says I'm ready to trade for real, I say I need more time to do simulated trading. We do another day of simulated trading and she says I'm ready and I should start trading with real money. Hindsight is 20/20, I can't believe what I was thinking. But I did do some checks on these people, like I aske them for pictures of themselves and I google image searched them. No results, not stock images, so I'm like, okay, a good sign. I ask the first person to have a phone call to talk, we do. Okay, fair enough. I ask the first person to send me the link to her design company that she said she owns, and she sends it over. Site is in Chinese but it's filled with a lot of images of homebuilding and some English sentences about home design. I ask her for more photos and it seems okay. I do the same with the "teacher". Google image search, no stock images, no results. I google the platform she's asking me to open an account on, can't find anything about it saying it's a scam. The reviews for the iphone app are mostly 4-5 stars, with people in the reviews complaining that the previous version of the app was better. So after all this, on the 11th of September I transfer the minimum needed to start investing, USD 10,000. I do this by using Transferwise, so I transfer the money in UK pounds to Transferwise (I live in the UK), the money is converted by Transferwise to USD and is send to the scammer's account to an Australian bank on Friday evening. I sleep on it, and next day morning I start panicking, I think my instincts started kicking in, and I do some more research online and I found something similar, not exactly the same scam, but something similar where you meet somebody online, start talking, some people even met with these people, and then they say can teach you or know somebody that can teach you to trade (gold, bitcoin, forex, etc). At that point I really panicked and I realised I got scammed. I try to reach Transferwise, but since it was Saturday, you could only reach them by email, couldn't even call them. I call the bank in Australia, I tell them what happened, I was scammed and the scammers account is with them and I give them the details of the bank account and everything. So literally after a few hours of the money leaving Trasnferwise I contacted the receiving bank. They told me they will pass it on to the Financial Crime team and look into it. I file a report with Action Fraud in the UK, I sent the report number to my bank, to the Australian bank and to Transferwise, but to Transferwise only on Monday when I can contact them again. I search online for some advice, and everybody thinks the best solution is to keep contacting the receiving bank as they could block the account, or the transaction and it could bounce back to Transferwise so I keep doing that. The receiving bank in Australia tells me to contact Transferwise and have them raise a fraud report and to get in contact with the Australian bank. After numerouse calls with Transferwise asking them to contact the receiving bank where I was told there's nothing they can do after the money has left Transferwise, I resort to calling the bank in Australia again. By this point I raised a cyber fraud report with the Australian police as well and sent the report number to the Australian bank. I ask the bank in Australia what is there to do, if they will deny the transfer or do something so that money does not leave the Australian bank account, and they said the Financial Crime team is looking into it, but I could also ask Transferwise to raise a recall request and to contact them, but I say I already did but Transferwise keeps telling me they can't do that. The person from the Australian bank tells me it seems like Transferwise is giving me wrong information. So I decide to call Transferwise again. I reach out to somebody, and they explain it still cannot be done. I'm almost begging them to do it, but they say it cannot be done. I start searching online of any events with TW and recall requests, and I found something where it said Transferwise doesn't want to do it because there's slim chance of getting the money back so they tell customers it cannot be done. I call Transferwise again and push and complain that I think they're just telling me they can't do it just to get rid of me and the person I'm talking to this time says it can actually be done and she'll do that request for me, and she apologises for her colleagues telling me the wrong information previously. I call the Australian bank again to let them know that Transferwise said they will do the recall and if there is anything I can do. They tell me best thing is for me to keep talking to Transferwise, as the Australian bank has done everything it can. Now, Transferwise shows you an estimation in days of how long a transfer will take. I did the transfer on Friday the 11th, and Transferwise estimated that the transfer would be completed by the 16th at 9:30 pm UK time. So doing all this I had some hope that something can happen. Mind you, I called the receiving bank a few hours after the transfer was done by Transferwise, and by their estimate had around 4-5 days until the transfer was complete. I feel like I wasted precious time because Transferwise was not helpful at all, from the start when I raised the scam with them telling me there's nothing they can do, to the moment I had to make around 5 calls just to get them to do the recall request. The 16th passes, the transfer appears complete in Transferwise and I get a message from the scammer that the funds have arrived and I can start trading. I didn't block them because I didn't want to freak them out and withdraw the money immediately it hits their account. I posted my long story here to see if there is something I can do. I had hopes that the Australian bank would block the withdrawal and it would bounce back, or they would block the scammer's account and my money would not be withdrawn and the recall would go through. I also have some hopes that based on what the scammer said today, the money is still in the Australian bank account. I feel like I acted pretty promptly after I realised I got scammed. Contacted the receiving bank, my bank, Transferwise and the authorities both in the UK and Australia. I don't know what else I could have done to get a more positive outcome, but now I'm asking you, the people of this subreddit, is there anything else I can do? Is there a chance the money is still in the scammer's account and the Australian bank has blocked it? Do you guys think Transferwise didn't treat me properly by dismissing me off the bat, and only helping me with the recall request after around 10 calls and pushing? Any advice would be much appreciated. I know I was foolish, I should have trusted my instincts, but I feel I also took some verification steps that I knew from the internet and I contacted every instituion asap after I realised I was scammed, so a few hours after sending the money. TL;DR I got scammed into sending money to an Australian bank account from the UK. What can I do now?
Complying to a scammer, but not quite the way he wanted me to!
(To any moderator, I have anonymitised everything and made sure that it is according to rules of this subreddit,I wanna share this story so please let me know should further editing be required ! please Consider this person has likely stolen thousands and thousands of innocent people so i wanna spread awareness! So the other day (actually my birthday too :)) I found this account on IG, I saved him as Scumm in my phone but he claims to be an "Alex", hit him up if you wanna get rich it is a fiest. So i hit him up and be like: [19:00, 23/09/2020] OP: Hello sir I am Tom, I read a lot of things about Forex and crypto and your page in particular and just inherited some money from a relative , I heard so many good things I thought you might help me invest some of that money so it is not lost? Kindly [19:08, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Ok [19:08, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Welcome [19:08, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Where are you from? [19:09, 23/09/2020] OP: Germany [19:09, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Ok Tom [19:09, 23/09/2020] Scumm: We specialise on Stock And cryptocurrency trading, with the sole aim of making awesome profit from the rapid changes in price of the assets and currencies we trade. We are group of professional market analysts that studies the market picking the best assets to invest on, and as well the best cryptocurrency pairs to trade on. We have mastered risk management and as well best possible strategy to maximize our clients Profits [19:10, 23/09/2020] Scumm: With the minimum investment of 1 BTC you can make 3.8BTC in a month [19:11, 23/09/2020] Scumm: If I may ask do you have a Bitcoin Wallet address? Now you can see how this is a scam and no one should ever follow such ludicrous claims! 380% in a month, if sb knew how, they wouldnt share that ,not in this world, not in this century... So i amlike: [19:15, 23/09/2020] OP: I'd be willing to invest even 2 bitcoin but I would need your company credentials and iban to send money to [19:19, 23/09/2020] Scumm: I can only provide you a US account to make payment [19:19, 23/09/2020] Scumm: This if gonna be possible [19:19, 23/09/2020] OP: Hmm I'll see maybe that works [19:19, 23/09/2020] OP: Easiest would be IBAN [19:19, 23/09/2020] OP: Your company does not have any European bank accounts? [19:19, 23/09/2020] Scumm: IBAN [19:20, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Mate I always follow procedures so I have not accept Transfer for deposit [19:20, 23/09/2020] Scumm: But I will see to that ok You see where this is going I want some info and make him believe he or one of his mules at least gets sweet sweet cash. NOT SO FAST [20:49, 23/09/2020] Scumm: I’m waiting on my Colleague to forward details to me now [20:49, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Ok so you are not sending today? [20:49, 23/09/2020] OP: Thank u so much [20:49, 23/09/2020] OP: I can try but I have to call bank [20:49, 23/09/2020] OP: For over 1000 [20:50, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Ok ok mate [20:50, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Good [21:08, 23/09/2020] Scumm: XXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXX Bank Account number: 8XXXXX0 Sort code: XXXX IBAN: GBXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [21:08, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Are you there Mate? [22:43, 23/09/2020] OP: Yes hi thank u so much [22:43, 23/09/2020] OP: Let me chdck [22:46, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Ok mate [22:53, 23/09/2020] Scumm: Are you trying to send it now mate? Spinning it furtherly: I just tell some yada yada about how it takes time and a signature since its such a large sum! [11:46, 24/09/2020] OP: Do you have license [11:46, 24/09/2020] Scumm: 25BTC too small for even my students 😂 /\SURE buddy! */* [11:46, 24/09/2020] OP: NASAA 67? [11:47, 24/09/2020] OP: For financial advisor [11:50, 24/09/2020] OP: This [11:50, 24/09/2020] OP: Sorry was upside down [11:50, 24/09/2020] OP: ? [11:51, 24/09/2020] Scumm: I’m an independent expert trader and portfolio management in crypto market [11:52, 24/09/2020] Scumm: License only met to give out from head of Admin [11:52, 24/09/2020] OP: Ah kk [11:52, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Yes mate [11:52, 24/09/2020] OP: But normally 67 and 68 is required [11:52, 24/09/2020] OP: For normal managers? [11:53, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Yes [11:55, 24/09/2020] Scumm: have no worries mate [11:55, 24/09/2020] Scumm: 100% Now this is quite interesting NASAA 65 and 66 are licenses needed to be an account manager in the US so if he was he should know that i just made up 67 and 68! [19:20, 24/09/2020] OP: Ill makethe first payment asap, but i cant make my bank go faster sorry [19:21, 24/09/2020] OP: howeverone thing: [19:21, 24/09/2020] OP: most of the moneyigotis still in USD isit possible u said invest and send to USbank too? [19:21, 24/09/2020] OP: for 20kUSD and above [19:22, 24/09/2020] OP: its hard for me topurhcase that much bitcoin on my own right now [19:22, 24/09/2020] OP: but i see that i can trust you! [19:22, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Mate ASAP you said you make payment today and you didn’t so I don’t know if you even sure about this yet [19:23, 24/09/2020] Scumm: I don’t get you please [19:23, 24/09/2020] Scumm: You mean you want your profit sent to a US bank? [19:24, 24/09/2020] Scumm: You have no worries about that mate [19:24, 24/09/2020] OP: I am [19:24, 24/09/2020] OP: I signed the paper mate I am so happy [19:24, 24/09/2020] OP: That's all they need I told u [19:24, 24/09/2020] OP: To make payments international so large [19:24, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Yeah you said that mate [19:24, 24/09/2020] OP: I am beeing honest as well [19:24, 24/09/2020] OP: So I sent it back by post Today [19:24, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Ok mate [19:25, 24/09/2020] OP: But I am not at my banks city so post takes 1-2 days and then they can release [19:25, 24/09/2020] OP: Sorry to keep u waiting [19:25, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Ok mate [19:25, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Oh I see [19:25, 24/09/2020] OP: No what I meant: if I wanna start with more can j invest 20k USD too? I know u usually don't do and j ask very weird questions but I meant [19:25, 24/09/2020] OP: I am not always home have pc etc but I am in contact with u and my bank [19:26, 24/09/2020] OP: So is it possible? Otherwise I have to convert USD to euro or GDP [19:26, 24/09/2020] OP: 40k is sill in USD I have [19:26, 24/09/2020] OP: That would be even crazier profits 🤑🤑🤑 [19:27, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Now I’m understanding SO NOW HE IS UNDERSTANDING good good, and almost ready to screw one of his US mules too: [21:00, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Ok mate [21:04, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Can they send from US to the IBAN account? [21:05, 24/09/2020] OGOP: Hm I don't know it's a bit tricky BC I'm no us citizen [21:05, 24/09/2020] OGOP: I have one iban authorised to cash all out in euro [21:05, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Ok ok mate [21:06, 24/09/2020] OP: And US I think right now [21:06, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Ok mate please hold [21:10, 24/09/2020] OP Sure man [21:11, 24/09/2020] OP: Uff such a huge step for me [21:11, 24/09/2020] OP: I hope u do it real good 🤑🤑🤑 [21:12, 24/09/2020] OP Do you have customers in US too? [21:12, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Bank name: Teachers Federal Credit Union Bank address: XXXXXXX Account holder: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX Account Holders address: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXX Routing Number: XXXXXXX Account number:XXXXXXXXXX [21:12, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Sure mate //SO HE CLAIMS TO HAVE SCAMMED US CITIZENS! [21:12, 24/09/2020] OP: Nice [21:12, 24/09/2020] Scumm: Please make sure you send confirmation immediately So finally I did not send him payment proof,I sent him a spoofed link to fetch his IP with a link to "payment proof" and got his IP and location (cant showr a real link bc it has my IP in it...) And was like " oh hey how is the whether in Irele, Nigeria??" Needless to say he blocked me straight away after I called him a disgraceful sc*m but hey..... I still called the corresponding banks, the UK Fraud Action and the FBI just to make sure and shared all of the details without any editting :) Have fun "mate"! If they can freeze only 1 $ and return it to a likely victim, I am more then happy Cheers dont get scammed! TL/DR: Scammed a Nigerian scammer into sending me real accounts, names and details in UK and US (mules) to forward to the police and may or may not have donated 500 to charity.
I got a called from a guy claimed to be a freelance financial broker a few months ago. He introduced me to a platform for forex trading, and tell me to make a new account on the site and he'll manage my account to trade forex using Metatrader 4. He will take 10% of the profit. He told me to think of this as a long term plan. He also said the platform gives my account some credits if I deposit, to kick start the investment. Something suspicious I found during this step, that his Skype account has a different name to his Skype name, like he's using sb else's account. I stupidly still make an account and deposit the money. Slowly, he starts creating some pressure by holding some risky trades and ask me to deposit more money to increase the margin and keep the trade. He also told me to make a test withdrawal with a small amount of money to make sure that it didn't disrupt the current trades, and I did, and it went smoothly. So I keep depositing money until my friend realize he changed some number on some trades to turn a loss into a win trade. Then I started being very suspicious and looking for info. Turns out I can't contact the platform for anything without going through him. The support email doesn't exist, I can't change my password, the company running the platform only has 3 employees in the UK, with the same last name. I started being scared and tried to withdraw a large amount of the money. At first some guy call me and said they're from the platform to help me withdraw the money, but he uses the same phone number. He told me I have to deposit 10% of the amount I withdraw, as commission, if I want to take it. I told him to get it from my profit, but he keep saying it doesn't work that way. I never heard from the support guy again. The broker resume contact with me after a while and I told him again I'll be withdrawing a large amount of money. He first say it's okay, but then later when I contact him to actually do it he again says I'll have to pay a fee because withdrawing big money means "closing" the account. He only allow me to withdraw another test withdrawal, and I did. This time the money hasn't come in for a while now. I'm quite certain I got scammed, but I still wants to hear some opinions out there, or at least give an example so others don't get caught in the same scam. Just be careful, don't take calls from stranger, especially if they call you and tell you to invest in sth. They can look and act normal at first, but they'll change their behavior. Also sorry if there's some grammar errors, English is not my native language.
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